Start Making Sense | The Nation https://www.thenation.com/content/start-making-sense/ The Nation Magazine Wed, 20 Aug 2025 15:02:55 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8 https://www.thenation.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/n-logo.png Start Making Sense | The Nation https://www.thenation.com/content/start-making-sense/ 32 32 The Mamdani Interview—Plus, Trump in Court https://www.thenation.com/podcast/politics/sms-08202025/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/politics/sms-08202025/#respond Wed, 20 Aug 2025 09:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=567354 Jon Wiener

On Start Making Sense: Katrina vanden Heuvel and John Nichols break down their exclusive chat, and David Cole talks about the president's lawfare tactics.

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Danish Resistance to Fascism, and Ours Today—Plus, Trump vs. UCLA https://www.thenation.com/podcast/politics/sms-08132025/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/politics/sms-08132025/#respond Wed, 13 Aug 2025 09:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=566688 Jon Wiener

On Start Making Sense: Sarah Sophie Flicker finds lessons for us in the Danes’ refusal to cooperate with Hitler, and historian David Myers on Trump’s $1 billion fine against UCLA.

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Katrina vanden Heuvel on Where We’re Going, and Robert Reich on How We Got Here https://www.thenation.com/podcast/politics/sms-08062025/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/politics/sms-08062025/#respond Wed, 06 Aug 2025 09:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=565740 Jon Wiener

On Start Making Sense: The Nation’s editor on our tasks now, and the Berkeley economist on understanding our historic mistakes.

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Dems Who Didn’t Vote in 2024—Plus, Mussolini and Trump https://www.thenation.com/podcast/politics/sms-07302025/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/politics/sms-07302025/#respond Wed, 30 Jul 2025 09:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=564923 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Celinda Lake on Biden voters who didn’t vote for Harris, and John Powers on a novel about the rise of Mussolini.

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How the Courts Blocked ICE’s Racial Profiling—Plus, How Organizers Succeed https://www.thenation.com/podcast/politics/sms-07232025/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/politics/sms-07232025/#respond Wed, 23 Jul 2025 09:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=564268 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Mark Rosenbaum on the injunction in LA, and Michael Ansara on The Hard Work of Hope.

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Musk’s Third Party—Plus, the Birthright Citizenship Class Action https://www.thenation.com/podcast/politics/sms-07162025/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/politics/sms-07162025/#respond Wed, 16 Jul 2025 09:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=563664 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, the Working Families Party’s Maurice Mitchell on Musk’s “American Party” and David Cole on why birthright citizenship will win at the Supreme Court.

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Trump vs. LA—Plus, Rachel Kushner’s “Creation Lake” https://www.thenation.com/podcast/politics/sms-07092025/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/politics/sms-07092025/#respond Wed, 09 Jul 2025 09:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=562841 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Harold Meyerson on the fight against ICE in Southern California, and Rachel Kushner on her latest novel.

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How Mamdani Won—Plus, Harvard vs. Trump https://www.thenation.com/podcast/politics/sms-07022025/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/politics/sms-07022025/#respond Wed, 02 Jul 2025 09:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=562154 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Bhaskar Sunkara on New York’s seismic election, and E.J. Dionne on universities under attack.

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How E. Jean Carroll Beat Trump in Court—Plus, What Really Happened In the 2024 Election https://www.thenation.com/podcast/politics/sms-06252025/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/politics/sms-06252025/#respond Wed, 25 Jun 2025 09:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=561442 How E. Jean Carroll Beat Trump in Court—Plus, What Really Happened In the 2024 Election

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Lessons of "No Kings"—Plus, Stopping the Medicaid Cuts https://www.thenation.com/podcast/activism/sms-06182025/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/activism/sms-06182025/#respond Wed, 18 Jun 2025 09:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=560674 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Indivisible's Leah Greenberg talks about next steps, and labor strategist Ai-jen Poo talks about the summer’s big political campaign.

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Saturday’s “No Kings” Day of Defiance—Plus, a Report from LA https://www.thenation.com/podcast/society/sms-06112025/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/society/sms-06112025/#respond Wed, 11 Jun 2025 09:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=559755 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Indivisible's Ezra Levin on Saturday’s nationwide protests, and Harold Meyerson on the National Guard and the Marines in Los Angeles.

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The 2025 Vote the Dems Must Win—Plus, New York in the 1960s https://www.thenation.com/podcast/politics/sms-06042025/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/politics/sms-06042025/#respond Wed, 04 Jun 2025 09:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=558574 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, John Nichols talks about key races this November, and J. Hoberman remembers New York’s 1960s avant-garde.

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Winning Rural Voters—Plus, J. Edgar Hoover https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-052725/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-052725/#respond Wed, 28 May 2025 09:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=557241 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Anthony Flaccavento and Erica Etelson explain the Rural New Deal, and Beverly Gage says the FBI’s first Director actually did some good things.

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Jamie Raskin on “A Rally a Day”—Plus, the Books of 1925 https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-052125/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-052125/#respond Wed, 21 May 2025 09:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=556517 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Jamie Raskin talks about defeating Trump, and Tom Lutz comments on the books of 1925 that are not The Great Gatsby.

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Antisemitism and Free Speech—Plus, Farewell to Musk https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-051325/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-051325/#respond Wed, 14 May 2025 09:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=555672 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, David Cole explains why universities must resist Elise Stefanik, and David Nasaw comments on the end of the White House bromance.

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Sherrod Brown: Winning Back the Working Class— Plus, “The Tide Is Turning” https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-050725/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-050725/#respond Wed, 07 May 2025 09:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=554391 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, the former Ohio senator talks politics, and Dahlia Lithwick argues that Trump is failing in the courts, and also with the public.

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From the 1950s Red Scare to Trump, Plus the Alger Hiss Case https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-043025/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-043025/#respond Wed, 30 Apr 2025 09:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=553391 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, historian Beverly Gage compares Trump’s attacks on universities with those of the McCarthy Era, and Jeff Kisseloff argues that Whittaker Chambers lied about a Soviet spy ring in the 1940s.

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Universities Join the Resistance, and the President Who Was Worse Than Trump https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-042325/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-042325/#respond Wed, 23 Apr 2025 09:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=552457 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Michael Roth, president of Wesleyan, talks about refusing to submit to the president, and Adam Hochschild explains Woodrow Wilson’s attacks on his critics.

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Harvard Takes a Stand—Plus, Musk and the Technocrats https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-041625/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-041625/#respond Wed, 16 Apr 2025 09:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=551434 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, David Cole talks about Harvard’s decision not to submit to Trump’s demands, and Jill Lepore explains where Musk got his ideas.

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The Tariffs We Want—Plus, Blocking Student Deportations https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-040925/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-040925/#respond Wed, 09 Apr 2025 09:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=550520 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Lori Wallach outlines a progressive trade policy, and Jameel Jaffer explains the AAUP legal challenge defending activist students.

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Winning in Wisconsin and in the Courts https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-040225/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-040225/#respond Wed, 02 Apr 2025 17:30:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=549231 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, John Nichols on the defeat of the Musk-funded candidate for the Wisconsin Supreme Court, and Rob Weissman on saving the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

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An Amazing Week for Resistance Rallies—Plus, Bad Voter Registration Laws https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-032625/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-032625/#respond Wed, 26 Mar 2025 09:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=547985 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, John Nichols discusses Bernie and AOC on the road,
and Elie Mystal talks about bad laws that are nevertheless popular.

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Trump and the Universities: Submission and Resistance https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-031825/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-031825/#respond Wed, 19 Mar 2025 09:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=546841 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, David Cole finds the unifying thread in Trump's threatened funding cuts, and David Myers comments on “protecting Jewish students” as a rationale for deporting Palestinian student activists.

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Trump, the Universities, and the Courts—Plus, the Case of Stephen Miller https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-031225/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-031225/#respond Wed, 12 Mar 2025 09:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=545768 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Erwin Chemerinsky asks about if Trump defies the courts
and David Klion talks about the architect of Trump’s attack on the undocumented.

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The Supremes’ First Trump Case of 2025, plus This Week’s Protest Roundup https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-030525/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-030525/#respond Wed, 05 Mar 2025 10:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=542592 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Robert Weissman on USAID funding, and John Nichols on recent anti-Trump rallies.

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Ro Khanna Is Doing More Than Voting “No” https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/interview-ro-khanna-trump-030325/ https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/interview-ro-khanna-trump-030325/#respond Mon, 03 Mar 2025 16:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=article&p=544365 Jon Wiener

The Silicon Valley progressive talks about the short-term and long-term strategies for defeating Trump and Trumpism.

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Ro Khanna and Thomas Geoghegan on What Is To Be Done https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-022625/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-022625/#respond Wed, 26 Feb 2025 15:30:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=543704 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Ro Khanna and Thomas Geoghegan talk about how the Democrats can win back working class voters.

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Elon Musk’s First Political Contributions of 2025—and the History of Culture Wars https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-021925/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-021925/#respond Wed, 19 Feb 2025 10:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=540156 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, John Nichols reports on the upcoming Wisconsin Supreme Court election, and Adam Hochschild looks at the Scopes Trial of 1925 and its echoes today.

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David Cole on How the Courts Can Stop Trump https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/qa-how-courts-stop-trump/ https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/qa-how-courts-stop-trump/#respond Tue, 18 Feb 2025 10:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=article&p=542372 Jon Wiener

The former national legal director of the ACLU analyzes recent efforts to block the president’s executive orders.

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The Courts v. Trump and Musk https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/the-courts-v-trump-and-musk/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/the-courts-v-trump-and-musk/#respond Wed, 12 Feb 2025 10:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=541423 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, David Cole and Robert Weissman on Trump’s current losing streak in federal court.

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Mobilizing Against Trump in Week 3 https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-020525/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-020525/#respond Wed, 05 Feb 2025 10:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=538929 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Rebecca Solnit and Leah Greenberg talk strategy, tactics, and the big picture.

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Chris Hayes on the Fight for Our Attention https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/chris-hayes-the-fight-for-our-attention/ https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/chris-hayes-the-fight-for-our-attention/#respond Mon, 03 Feb 2025 16:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=article&p=539402 Jon Wiener

In this interview, the MSNBC host discusses Trump’s mastery of our age of attention, and his new book, The Sirens’ Call.

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Chris Hayes: How Trump Wins the Battle for Attention https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-012925/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-012925/#respond Wed, 29 Jan 2025 10:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=537916 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, the MSNBC host says information is infinite, but attention is limited—and that’s what makes it valuable.

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How We Got Here, and Thanking the Undocumented https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-012125/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-012125/#respond Wed, 22 Jan 2025 10:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=538026 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Harold Meyerson analyzes how Trump “won,” and Gustavo Arellano pays tribute to the immigrants Trump says he’ll deport.

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The DNC v. Trump, Nonprofits v. Trump https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-011525/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-011525/#respond Wed, 15 Jan 2025 10:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=536893 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, John Nichols on the candidates for DNC chair, and Katha Pollitt on groups that may help Trump’s victims.

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Defending the Undocumented—Plus, Uncovering Hidden Wealth https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-010825/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-010825/#respond Wed, 08 Jan 2025 10:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=535858 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Ahilan Arulanantham explains strategies for resisting Trump’s deportation efforts, and Atossa Araxia Abrahamian talks about The Hidden Globe.

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The Dylan Movie Plus the Trump Books https://www.thenation.com/podcast/society/sms-123124/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/society/sms-123124/#respond Tue, 31 Dec 2024 10:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=533845 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, John Powers talks about “A Complete Unknown,” and host Jon Wiener has a list of the “best” books about the president-elect.

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Bob Dylan’s Christmas Album https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-122424/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-122424/#respond Tue, 24 Dec 2024 10:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=533841 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Sean Wilentz on a puzzling set of holiday songs.

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Working-Class Wins—Plus, Hot Rod Racing https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-121824/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-121824/#respond Wed, 18 Dec 2024 10:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=533857 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Harold Meyerson reports on recent union victories, and Rachel Kushner talks about nostalgia dragsters.

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Why Kamala Lost—Plus, Trump Family Doings https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-121124/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-121124/#respond Wed, 11 Dec 2024 10:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=532777 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Steve Phillips challeges the conventional wisdom about the election, and Amy Wilentz reviews the latest on the Trump kids and their in-laws.

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The Courts, Trump, and Us: A Q&A With David Cole https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/qanda-david-cole-trump-courts/ https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/qanda-david-cole-trump-courts/#respond Tue, 10 Dec 2024 10:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=article&p=532624 Jon Wiener

Last time, the courts were an essential checking force on the Trump administration. This time around, they may again provide a check—if we push.

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What Can Stop Trump—Plus, Project 2025–the Dumb Parts https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-120424/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-120424/#respond Wed, 04 Dec 2024 10:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=531988 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, David Cole talks about citizens defending the Constitution, and Rick Perlstein comments on Republican plans for the second Trump term.

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Exploiting Trump’s Weaknesses—Plus, Mass Deportation in US History https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-112724/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-112724/#respond Wed, 27 Nov 2024 10:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=531331 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Harold Meyerson analyzes splits between MAGA and the Republicans, and Eric Foner explains efforts to remove whole populations in the 19th-century US.

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Trump Voters for Abortion; and Learning from John Lewis https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-112024/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-112024/#respond Wed, 20 Nov 2024 10:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=529918 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Amy Littlefield reports on reproductive rights in Amarillo, and David Greenberg talks about the life and work of the civil rights hero and longtime member of congress.

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Rebecca Solnit on Hope in the Dark—Plus the Musk Bromance https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-111224/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-111224/#respond Wed, 13 Nov 2024 10:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=529196 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, what it means to have hope, and why the bromance between Trump and the world’s richest man cannot last.

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What Happened and What Comes Next https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-110624-election-results/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-110624-election-results/#respond Wed, 06 Nov 2024 20:04:51 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=528171 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, John Nichols analyzes the election results.

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Harris’s Closing Arguments, Plus Election Protection https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-102924/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-102924/#respond Wed, 30 Oct 2024 09:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=526746 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Bhaskar Sunkara on working-class issues, and Sophia Lin Lakin on the ACLU’s preparations.

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Are Black and Latino Voters Really “Drifting”? Plus Melania and Her Memoir https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-102224/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-102224/#respond Wed, 23 Oct 2024 09:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=525231 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Steve Phillips on electoral demographics and Amy Wilentz on the former first lady’s new book.

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Understanding the Undecideds, plus Working Class Voters Now https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-101624/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-101624/#respond Wed, 16 Oct 2024 09:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=524158 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Rick Perlstein on the failures of journalism, and Eyal Press on Harris in Pennsylvania.

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The Polls and Us—Plus, How a Dem Wins in a Red District https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-100924/ https://www.thenation.com/podcast/archive/sms-100924/#respond Wed, 09 Oct 2024 09:00:00 +0000 https://www.thenation.com/?post_type=podcast&p=523131 Jon Wiener

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Rick Perlstein on polls and Marc Cooper on Representative Gleusenkamp Perez's campaign in Washington.

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